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September 05, 2008

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Swagg101

Rick ross is a fat lying piece of shit...He will get in a magizine and talk that shit that he was never a c.o but won't face the people like a real nigga he claims to be...Fraud ass trying to hide behind his money...We still see you fat boy!!!!!!
And as for bow wow..what I want to know is why is it every time he's getting ready to put out a album we start hearing all these storys about how he's sleeping with this girl and that girl...Dude..Get a new gimmick...Don't think people forgot about that youtube video that you had took down within the hour of you and o kissing threw that door...

Clofresh (Last of the Real OG's)

Hell Naw. Camron can not make it on his own. Camron has always been lame. He can't rap for shit. "Huey, Duey, Louie, fuey, ka-ka, ma-ma"!! Nigga what!... Not even people in Harlem no what the fuck he be talking about. Camron is a total fucking clown. A man in a pink mink and a pink range rover. The fuck outta here. And is it me, but Camron looks stupid as fuck rocking all that jewelry. Cam you look like a bafoon dawg. I hope you aint spend all that $$$ you got from the Santanna deal, cause you'll be broke soon. Yeah, if it happened to Dame Dash, it sure as hell can happen to this lame, mis-money managing ass nigga.
Superhead is really putting it out there that she will be your sex slave for $$$$...I hope she reads this site. She will never get married unless it's to a dude that is totallyl broke and don't have a pot to piss in. I mean is she really that naive to think that big time male celebs will wife her up. I mean she has to be joking right. She know how the game go, can't turn a hoe into a housewife. Superhead, i thought you new the deal missy. You will have to bring down your standards to marry a dude, and he'll have to be damn near broke. Nobody wants to bring your hoe ass to momma. I bet she has every damn disease known to man.
Rick False!!!! Just fucking fess up dawg! How the fuck are you gonna keep denying public records fool. This nigga is so stupid. I mean they got your pics (with the negatives, and i aint seen negatives in a long ass time since we moved into the digital age), and they got your Social Security number matching up to everything. Just come clean. His career is finished. Fucking fake ass, clown ass rappers.
Still waiting for Yung Turd to surface about his chain being snatched. I guess it is taking him this long for that face to heel. Heard he really did get the bizness!!!!

bigboi2345

didnt krs one say dont get high on your own supply not biggie

bigboi2345

hey Archie Fucque didnt krsone say dont get high on your own supply first

OneFour

We all know Ross was a cop. And most likely he is still a cop, only now he's Larry Fishburne in Deep Cover. What is so surprising to me is that the rest of the hip hop community is giving this dude a pass. Why would you give the government assigned undercover fake-black Tony Montana a pass? Rick Ross featuring Kanye, Lil Wayne, Pharrel, T-Pain, Flo-Rida, etc. Think about it. . . Sunglasses 24/7 and a big beard that wasn't there when he was a C.O. That is undercover gear fam. Wake up and blackball this dude, or leave him in a hail of hollowpoints. Word up.

Nimrod

I have to agree with Blender. I laugh when people criticize 50 and then proclaim Pac the greatest rapper ever. Pac is the pinnicle of gimmickry. 50 took his blueprint and ran with it. Everything you hate about 50 you should hate about Pac. He is the prototype for all that I came to hate about rap. The music took a shift from creativity to drama with him. No longer did lyrical skill matter. Getting arrested and shot became a prerequisite for success after he did the #'s he did upon his release because he didn't sell shit prior. (For those who say sales don't matter)He used beef and the promotion of division in the black community as a springboard for fame. Now there are no shortage of shirtless, tattoo'd, ignorant, buffoons throwing up gang signs and repping some hood they claim to come from although no one knew them before their fame. Lets not forget the baggy pants hanging below the ass cheeks. That guy was like poison and one day those who emulate him whether directly or indirectly will look back in disbelief... That's if they're still around.

G-UNOT KILLA

Listen Rick Ross is talking tough in the MIA ONLY because he has E-Class & E-Class's goons behind him. Flo-Rida Can't even fight his own battles E-Class basically uses them niggaz like puppets like Jimmy Henchmen uses game. Game wouldn't talk tough like that if he didn't have a REAL goon he wouldn't talk tough. Like Dr Dre said, "some niggaz just pay niggaz to act tough/ & that's ass backwars/ cause these niggaz just keep coming back & that's when extortion happens." This niggaz is being extorted by E-Class rick ross is a fat lying p.o.s.

G-UNOT KILLA

LOL how appropiate Dickrod dissing a dead man in 2pac. SMH God bless u brotha

Real_Talk

Let me first say that Jay-z is my all time favorite rapper to remove any other statements that may follow. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but my opinion is I dont think Blender should have a right to an opinion on 2pac being overrated. How? He was able to reach millions of people all over the world. This means he was doing something right. He wasn't super metaphoric like Biggie was, but 2pac's lyrics were poetic similar to that of a langston hughes and his words were powerful like that of a Martin Luther King or Malcolm X. They studied 2pac's lyrics at the university of Berkeley because of how profound they were in his use of imagery and allegory. He has a book of Poems, "A rose that grew from concrete." That concept alone that 2pac created, "A rose that grew from concrete," is nearly far greater than any rap lyric. Think about how profound the concept of a rose growing from concrete is and how you can speak volumes on its meaning. Biggie had more metaphores and made you say "ooh and aahh" at how clever he would make comparisons and use street language. Pac made you say "WOW." Songs like "So many tears," "Dear mama" (He made it cool to do songs about your mother), "Until the End of Time," "Thugs Mansion," "Me and My Girlfriend," "Against All Odds (The realest shit I ever wrote)","Hail Mary" Nearly every track on "All eyes on Me." 2pac was the first rapper to do a double album, then everybody else followed including biggie. That's a sign of genius not overrated. 2pac had posthumous albums that were better than most albums albums. "Until the End of Time" Classic! "Makaveli 7 day Theory: Don Killuminati" Classic! Either of these three albums "Me against the World," "All Eyes on Me,"(which he recorded 28 songs in 2 weeks) and "Makaveli 7 day theory" (Which he recorded in 7 days) are in nearly every hip hop heads top 5 albums of all time. You gotta throw a 2pac album in your top 5 favorite rapper or not. Next thing you know people will say Jay-z is overrated. SMH! I'm surprised that no one has said Biggie was overrated. The man has only made two albums, they are great albums though, but Biggie's catalogue aint deep enough IMO. I still put Big in my top 5 because of the impact that he has made but I put Big right under Nas. My top 5 1. Jay-z 2. 2pac 3. Nas 4. Biggie 5. Big L (personal preference, people from Harlem like me know of him a lil better). 2pac was extremely versatile, He had those club bangers, Street records, conceptual records, and ground breaking records, like "Dear Mama." Name a Biggie record that was ground breaking. Don't say "Juicy," for it was just another song about a guy talkin bout how rough it was growing up in the hood and how its all good. Biggie did not make conceptual records like how Nas would or Jay would or Pac would.

If 2pac is overrated then Martin Luther King and Malcolm X are overrated. Bob Dylan is not the greatest singer in the world but he has done things that has impacted and changed the format of pop and rock music. i.e. songs with 3 verses, and songs that lasted longer than 4minutes. Before, pop songs only lasted 2:30, 3min at the most. 2pac is as good as everyone perceives him to be. 75million people (records he sold worldwide) could not be wrong. He is in the guiness book of world records for being the most successful rap artist of all time selling more records than any other rap artist. Eminem is very close behind him tho. Like I said, everyone has their individual privalege to an opinion, but your opinion has to be backed with support in order for it to be credible. There is no support for 2pac being overrated. Not that I believe this, I most certainly do not, but there is more support for Biggie being overrated (I.E. only recording only two studio albums). Like Jay-z said, "Men Lie, women lie, numbers don't." Blender has now lost credibility for writing such an article. 2pac may not be your favorite rapper for whatever reason, but you cannot deny his impact on music and as a journalist you have to be careful on the things you say or else you will contribute to the magazine you work for losing its credibility, which will ultimately lead to its demise.

Nimrod

The comparisons of Pac to MLK and Malcolm is exactly why I welcome his exposure. He is given too much credit on a level he has no business being put on. To me that cheapens the struggles of the aforementioned great men. Pac was a confused kid addicted to attention. It is sacrilegious to compare narcissistic individuals to people willing to die for the sake of others.

The Panthers taught that you are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Who can say with a straight face that Pac was part of ANY solution?

Clofresh (Last of the Real OG's)

Real Talk.....Thanks dawg, you saved me from typing damn near a novel of why Pac is legendary. Because Nimrod is exactly that...A fuckin Nimrod.

Nimrod

@Clo-fresh

Did you ever meet Pac? I did. Not only did I meet him but spent time around him on more than one occasion. Aside from that my homies sometimes held him down when he was in NY. You my nigga are a dickriding fan devoid of capabilities pertaining to logic and reason. I put the bait out there and sure enough clowns like you bite. Did you notice how Real Talk and I hold differing perspectives yet refrained from personal attacks? You couldn't express yourself in that manner if you tried so he didn't save you any time whatsoever. You're the typical FAN of hip hop... Foundated in IGNORANCE and motivated by EMOTION.


Truth of the matter is I can share a few revealing things about your hero that are irrefutable but I won't. If people like his music that's one thing but when attempts to elevate his relevance to more profound places in history are made people like myself will always be here to say pump your brakes youngin cause that ain't how it went down.


You like Pac cause your mother loved him and wished he was your daddy. Keep that personal shit out the debate. All you know about Pac is secondhand or probably thirdhand. You probably thank God for QD3 and his tired ass BEEF DVD series. Pac's legendary status as you call it has little to do wth his music and everything to do with his knack for creating SPECTACLE.


Now write me a novel if you can.

BigPimpin

G-Unot Killa,couldnt have said it better and the blogger that wrote this shit is dumb as f*ck. how is Jadakiss the most over rated rapper? what the f*ck. if anything he is the most under rated. most people dont even know his name.

$Tycoon

Wow...

Blasfemi

As a Pac fan, i take deep offence to the article published in Blender. Motherf*ckers be tripping!
All they trying to do is go in the opposite direction to what everybody knows: There is Pac and there is the rest. As we look forward to celebrate 12 years since his passing, the last thing is some bullshit magazine talking reckless about Pac. This is why muthaf*ckers gets sprayed.

Blasfemi

Onefour,you's a muthaf*cker. How the f*ck can you put Pac and 50 in one line? Damn, blasphem!
Pac had more than in his little finger than fif has in his whole f*cking body. Pac is the real deal. Ya'll motherf*ckers tripping. There is Pac and there is the rest..

IndustryMac

Pac was not perfect, but let's reserve criticism for a day other than the anniversary of his death.

But, NimRod makes a great point.

Pac was a great rapper, but he was by far NOT a great man.

Pac was very contradictory and hypocritical. He would talk all this positive upliftment BS, then he would go out there and act like an ignorant fool.

Feel free to be a fan of TuPac. Nothing wrong with that. But, when you start to put Pac in the same category as MLK and Malcolm X, you're bugging out hard. Sounds like folks need a reality check. You've been watching too much TV homie. Go read a book.

I loved Pac as a rapper and performer. But, I thought he was an idiot that needed a good smack upside the head at times. I feel the same way about Kanye, Jeezy, Wayne and 50. Love their music, but I think that personally, they are conceited idiots.

REACT

@ NIMROD & REAL TALK

Excellent points on both sides. Dayum, I'd love to post my own novel on this, but I definitely taking from both of your posts. Opinions are opinions, but it's good that both have included some logic to substantiate your viewpoints.

On the strength of actual records and the use of imagery, I see REAL TALK's viewpoint (especially in the way you expressed it and compared it with other artists). But you lose me when you go to the extent of comparing dude to MLK and Malcolm X.

NIMROD, I could've guessed your frustration before you even posted a response. It has to do with people enjoying someone's music, even if it's just one song, and commencing with the hero-worship and the exaggerations. Consumers hardly ever can consider these artists in the light of reality - not only that these are just people, but that lyrics on a song or records sold is nowhere near the same as actual contribution to society.

Hip-Hop is so full of pretense that an artist can literally create their whole history and persona, according to whatever garners attention in that moment of time - in Pac's case, "thug life." He was an excellent rapper, but he also may have been the best bullsh*tter in history.

Is Blender correct in saying he's overrated? As a rapper, I don't think so. That fool worked his ass off and more than 75% of his work was good if not decent. But as the figure he has been made out to be? Yes, Pac is overrated.

What I always say is time tells it's own tale. Would Biggie and Pac be regarded as the legends they are if they REMAINED ALIVE??? Nope. How do I know? Ask Rakim the "god emcee." I think he's somewhere in Lithuania doing a show right about now.

REACT

BLASFEMI wrote: How the f*ck can you put Pac and 50 in one line? Damn, blasphemy!
Pac had more than in his little finger than fif has in his whole f*cking body. Pac is the real deal. Ya'll motherf*ckers tripping. There is Pac and there is the rest...

There you go right there... blindness caused by uncontrollable hero-worship. Although Pac has a few records that went deeper than your standard "shoot-em-up" anthems, as artists there isn't that much separating Pac and 50... I know it kills y'all to hear that. They both exploited a stereotype of urban Black males to get a following and make tons of money in the process. Pac was more lyrical and poetic, but that has nothing to do with "realness." According to "gangsta-rap idiots" y'all should be awarding 50 on the category of "realness" rather than a failed dealer who went to a privileged art school and wrote poetry, who then danced back-up for a pop group, and when he fashioned himself into a thug, lived the rest of his life as Suge Knight's b*tch!

Obviously it doesn't line up with the persona he gave himself in the media, but who cares, right? Pac was a damn-good rapper. But he peddled the same negroidian buffoonery that your man 50 Cent does. Not exactly an MLK or Malcolm X of the community, wouldn't you say?

PAC_NAS_OR_BIG

That was very disrespectful, and as a black man i am personally offended. I will never support that magazine after reading such garbage. As Pac said "God bless the dead". The clown that wrote the article should have kept that bullshit to himself. Sounds like a bitter whiteboy. Pac was our Malcolm X. Have any of you clowns actually read Malcolm's biography? Do you know the type of shit he was out in the streets doing at the ages of 20-25? How can you condemn the way Pac behaved, but fail to forget he died at 25 years old!!!!! He wasnt in his 40's of course a 22 year old boy/man is gonna be immature at times. But look at how much he accomplished by 25, its hard to believe he was so young. You can't sit here and judge Pac as a man you fucking idiots. 100% of human beings make mistakes when they are young, but all is forgotten years down the line. So i say again, before you ever try to down him as a "MAN" realize he died at 25 and never had the chance to become a man. Now ask your selves how much did you accomplish in life at the ages of 20-25? Pac was the most mature 20 yr old i ever seen. Duke was only becoming more positive, and concious b4 his death. He spoke of things in his last interview that really touched my heart, and made me change my life. lol at the thought jigga releasing RD @ the age of 27, and Pac was already the GOAT by the age of 25.

PAC_NAS_OR_BIG

After reading that I feel disrespected as a black man. I will never support that magazine after reading such garbage. As Pac said "God bless the dead". The clown that wrote the article should have kept that bullshit to himself. Sounds like a bitter whiteboy. Pac was out Malcolm X. Have any of you clowns actually read Malcolm's biography? Do you know the type of shit he was out in the streets doing at the ages of 20-25? How can you condemn the way Pac behaved, but fail to forget he died at 25 years old!!!!! He wasnt in his 40's of course a 22 year old boy/man is gonna be immature at times. But look at how much he accomplished by 25, its hard to believe he was so young. You can't sit here and judge Pac as a man you fucking idiots. 100% of human beings make mistakes when they are young, but all is forgotten years down the line. So i say again, before you ever try to down him as a "MAN" realize he died at 25 and never had the chance to become a man. Now ask your selves how much did you accomplish in life at the ages of 20-25? Pac was the most mature 20 yr old i ever seen. Duke was only becoming more positive, and concious b4 his death. He spoke of things in his last interview that really touched my heart, and made me change my life.
Pac was a revolutionary, and 90% of your favorite rappers will tell you he's that dude. He was a genius and he knew he had to make a gangtsa cut or club hit to get you to by the album, so he can hit you with real black powerful shit ignorant niggas dont wanna hear. lol at the thought jigga releasing RD @ the age of 27, and Pac was already the GOAT by the age of 25.

Diesel

wow how can we miss Lil Wayne as overated? well how is Jadakiss most overated? Jay-Z kinda to me, he seem like he turned comercialized a little after Biggie died.

Nimrod

Peace React. I don't agree with Real Talk but at least he's not emotional like some of these other dudes.

Musically, Pac was unimpressive prior to his release from prison. He was just another of many good rappers. After his release and alliance with Deathrow BEEF became his primary marketing tool. 50 did the same thing. Conjure up some imaginary conspiracy and then set out to defeat it. I wonder how many people would care about Pac's music were it not for all the drama that catapulted him to the spotlight. That's why I think even musically he's overrated.

As far as comparing him to Malcolm at 25 then that can be said about BIG and just about every young black male cut down prematurely but we all know why people make the comparison with Pac. There's a disingenuous attempt to make him out to be more than an entertainer and I'm not having it.


Pac was a disappointment. He didn't shoot those cops in Atl but took credit for it. He allowed a black woman to suck his dick on a dance floor in a blatant display of ego tripping and disrespect for the women he claimed to love. I know he didn't rape her but had he treated her like the "sisters" he rhymed about she would have never called the police.

Furthermore at the Deathrow Christmas party after he got out he instigated the brutal beating and sodomy of an innocent dude who had the misfortune of being from NY but taking a job with Deathrow. The poor fella sued and caked up but he was never the same mentally. I didn't know him personally but the thought that Pac did that to another black man sickens me. I don't care if he sold a billion records.

You dudes don't know nothing about Pac the man. Somebody should've killed that piece of shit sooner and saved us all the trouble. He was dirt and I don't care how anyone feels about it. That's all I got to say on the matter.

PAC_NAS_OR_BIG

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THIS FAGGOT IS GOING TO HELL

Real_Talk

Like I said before. Everyone has a privalege to express their opinion. Reasonable people often disagree which is why we face global and local dilemmas on a day to day basis. I was in no way trying to say Pac was on the same level with Martin Luther King or Malcolm x in the sense that you all were making it. I was simply making a comparison in how pac was able to speak to the souls of other human beings and capture their attention (both positive and negative) like that of any profound orator such as an MLK or MX. If he was so underrated and unimpressive, there was something about him that got him 75million sold worldwide. Think over that! All of us are equals as human beings, since we are all born of a woman and come into this world knowing nothing. A dead man is in same state as any other dead man, whether he was rich or poor, perceived to be good or evil, smart or dumb, a dead man is motionless like all other dead men. We are also all hypocrites. There is no man that walked this earth that hasn't contradicted himself. Although we may know right from wrong, our flesh is weak making us to fall victims into to doing the wrong thing sometimes. I say this because although MLK and MX should be honored and respected, they were still human beings. Therefore you can compare and contrast one human being to another regardless to what level we may perceive them to be at.

Nimrod you must think carefully on what it is that you are saying. To say someone should have killed Pac sooner is a sign of arrogance. You have just said in so many ways that you deserve life more than he did To say Pac is less of a man because he got oral sex on the dance floor is hypocritical. We must stay true to ourselves. What would you do in that same situation? We all have our different boundaries and things we really wouldn't do but how many men out there really would refuse oral sex regardless to where it takes place at? A proud man would say, "I would never do such a thing" until he is presented with the same circumstance. We all like to throw stones and not look in the mirror. We all have our faults as people. We are all weak to something. We all need self improvement. We when see persons of worth we should try and equal ourselves to them. When we see persons of contrary character we should look inward and examine ourselves. We should honor the good the we see in people and not judge them for being human. My ultimate point nimrod is that you seem like a very intelligent individual and I respect that, but don't let your pride and arrogance get the best of you. Remember that you are not Pac's maker therefore you cannot judge that which you had nothing to do in creating. We all do good and bad things at the end of the day because our knowledge and wisdom is limited. I'm sorry Nimrod, but your point crumbles in and of itself.

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